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Study: No gender differences in math performance ![]() July 24, 2008 by Madeline Fisher We've all heard it. Many of us in fact believe it. Girls just aren't as good at math as boys. But is it true? After sifting through mountains of data — including SAT results and math scores from 7 million students who were tested in accordance with the No Child Left Behind Act — a team of scientists says the answer is no. Whether they looked at average performance, the scores of the most gifted children or students' ability to solve complex math problems, girls measured up to boys. “Stereotypes are very, very resistant to change, but as a scientist I have to challenge them with data.” Janet Hyde, professor of psychology "There just aren't gender differences anymore in math performance," says UW-Madison psychology professor Janet Hyde, the study's leader. "So parents and teachers need to revise their thoughts about this." ![]() The UW-Madison and University of California, Berkeley, researchers report their findings in the July 25 issue of Science. Though girls take just as many advanced high school math courses today as boys, and women earn 48 percent of all mathematics bachelor's degrees, the stereotype persists that girls struggle with math, says Hyde. Not only do many parents and teachers believe this, but scholars also use it to explain the dearth of female mathematicians, engineers and physicists at the highest levels. Cultural beliefs like this are "incredibly influential," she says, making it critical to question them. "Because if your mom or your teacher thinks you can't do math, that can have a big impact on your math self concept." To carry out its query, the team acquired math scores from state exams now mandated annually under No Child Left Behind (NCLB), along with detailed statistics on test takers, including gender, grade level and ethnicity, in 10 states. Using data from more than 7 million students, they then calculated the "effect size," a statistic that reports the degree of difference between girls' and boys' average math scores in standardized units. The effect sizes they found — ranging from 0.01 and 0.06 — were basically zero, indicating that average scores of girls and boys were the same. "Boys did a teeny bit better in some states, and girls did a teeny bit better in others," says Hyde. "But when you average them all, you essentially get no difference." Some critics argue, however, that even when average performance is equal, gender discrepancies may still exist at the highest levels of mathematical ability. So the team searched for those, as well. For example, they compared the variability in boys' and girls' math scores, the idea being that if more boys fell into the top scoring percentiles than girls, the variance in their scores would be greater. Again, the effort uncovered little difference, as did a comparison of how well boys and girls did on questions requiring complex problem solving. What the researchers did find, though, was a disturbing lack of questions that tested this ability. In fact, they found none whatsoever on the state assessments for NCLB, requiring them to turn to another data source for this part of the study. What this suggests, says Hyde, is that if teachers are gearing instruction toward these assessments, the performance of both boys and girls in complex problem solving may drop in the future, leaving them ill-prepared for careers in math, science and engineering. "This skill can be taught in the classroom," she says, "but we need to motivate teachers to do so by including those items on the tests." The study's final piece was a review of the granddaddy of all high school math tests, the SAT. The fact that boys score better on it than girls has been widely publicized, contributing to the public's notion that boys truly are better at math. But Hyde and her co-authors think there's another explanation: sampling artifact. For one thing, because it's administered only to college-bound seniors, the SAT is hardly a random sample of all students. What's more, greater numbers of girls take the test now than boys, because more girls are going to college. ![]() "So you're dipping farther down into the distribution of female talent, which brings down the average score," says Hyde. "That may be the explanation for (the results), rather than girls aren't as good as math." Still, will all of this be enough to finally shift this long-held attitude? Hyde can't say, but she remains determined to do so. "Stereotypes are very, very resistant to change," she says, "but as a scientist I have to challenge them with data." The study's other authors are Sara Lindberg, Amy Ellis and Carolyn Williams of UW-Madison, and Marcia Linn of UC, Berkeley. The work was funded by the National Science Foundation Cheer up ladies . Decades of arguments about women's intelligent is put to an end!Thank you researchers, Rose
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Salam alukiem sister
mashallah i've heard that boys are much more better than girls in math problems but now with these data and stat. i would say wooow i don't know why they told us before that ?!!! and i think that they weren't sure about it I used to like math but in 12th grade... i hated so much not because of the matiral itself but because of the teacher... but now i'm doing alright on it Thanks a lot sister Rose for this topic and it's my pleasure to be first one who replied at your topic after you came back ![]() waiting for more sister T.C. your brother bundy
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Heollo Bundy It's often been the stereotype, which I was strongly against, that boys are smarter than girls. Like many other stereotypes, this was not supported by any scientific evidence. I think it is a GREAT VICTORY for all women that someone finally said it OUT LOUD when It comes to who is more intelligent, both males and females show equal capabilities. thanks for reading the ' quite long" article ![]() All the Best, Rose
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Hola sister Rose
I agree with you that in Arabic countries are full of stereotypes which came from customs that has no relation to real Islam. Now, we can see women are besides men in everything. and don't ever said it's long article because i enjoyed reading it ![]() thx a lot T.C sister bundy
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بِسْمِ اللهِ الرَّحْمَنِ الرِّحِيْم
| \ / Hey Rose Thanks for this great topic First of all I believe that :: Nobody is smarter than Anybody And gender is exclude of this title Base on this title I don't believe in anything says that this gender is smarter than that gender in this field or that one No, it totally wrong If we went back to our history, We can so many ladies who were memories HADITH more than Men And in poetry, our example is KHANSA'A the female poet one of the most famous poet in Islamic and Arabic history So, there are no need make any kind of apartheid between to genders Both of the genders performance their jobs, and each of them each other By the way, I don't believe in Studies coming from WEST side Because they are always modifying thier facts and studies, and every time giving different result Sorry to be so boring take care / \ | BRAVE HEART
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Dear This study was done in USA and covered 7 millions students and can't be generalized for all students through out the world. The sample was drown from a specific area and people around the world vary in many aspects . Many important factors would change the final result of no difference if were taken into account. Usually, census gives more accurate results than sampling which can be affected by sampling error as you know. As a result , we can't approve this result for our communities cause it is related to the US and in statistics you can't generalize results taking from a sample to totally different population . So Don't be happy And I still believe that males are much more smarter than females , unless you prove the opposite through a study that matches our cultures with units from our region ( locally ) or more widely from all countries over the world. cheeers Omaniaaaaa
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Hello Again Bundy I totally agree with you. Today many women are in positions of power, leadership, and are able to perform the same tasks that recently were considered " only for men . There are women pilots, ministers,ambassadors, CEO's ,etc. If that means anything, it means that women are capable of performing any task if given the right opportunity Best of Luck, Rose
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Greetings BrAv3_h3ArT I appreciate your input. Yes, I do agree with you that intelligence has nothing to do with being a male or a female. The main purpose of this study is to break the stereotype that many people believe in that boys are smarter than girls. This stereotype adversely effected many women who were looked down upon. There were studies done in the past that favored both genders. Some of these studies said that men are smarter; whereas other studies said women are smarter. The previous study conducted in UW-madison, proves that there is no gender difference if taken into consideration both genders. Thanks for your input, Rose
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Dear Omania
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You are maybe right. Therefore, more testing should be done. Since this is the most recent study, it is considered " proven right" until another study proves it to be wrong. اقتباس:
Statistically, as you may know, larger samples provide better results. Samples were conducted from 10 states which is not in any mean specific. It is a broad sample. اقتباس:
Although I am not quite sure what factors you are pointing at, I don't think the final results will change. The standard deviation and the mean may change a little, but the study will have the same results. The error factor is very very small because we are dealing with actual reported data. اقتباس:
First ,who is we? Second, let's think of it as a theory,it is right until proven wrong. If you can provide me with a study done in " our" communities that contradicts the result of this study, then I will believe you. اقتباس:
Does it hurt to be a little nicer? اقتباس:
I respect your view. yet, i disagree with it. اقتباس:
I don't need to prove the opposite because you don't believe so. It is your job to look up statistics and studies that prove your point of view because I have already proven mine. Regards, Rose
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Dear, I'm statistician and I know exactly what I wrote.. The result was restricted to the USA students in those ten states only ( not the whole states ). If this study shows that no difference between American boys and girls in solving complex mathematical problems , then you can't generalize THEIR results to our communities or others in the world. This can't be accepted in STATISTICS . To prove this issue widely , we need to collect a random sample from all over the world , in that case we can judge weather boys are better or the opposite. cheeers
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